Bring back the Bloodlines

[Edward Veatress]

We need the damn bloodlines, because, well no offense, whats the point in RPing vampire besides Game-Face, without bloodlines its like being a guy with no family history, we can go back to the old way of NO POWERS, and just bloodlines, cause' some people didnt get it and Moriaty had to cut alot of Vampire RP for it... so as a "Veteran" player, lets bring back the Bloodlines so we are evened out with the Wolves at least....

[Simon Bourne]

Yeah and also Remove werewolves since they caused a lot of trouble since they were scripted.....

Fuck that and this and everything, just relax, vampire bloodlines were removed because people started to bite magical NPC animals and shapeshifting into them.

That's why...

[Kevin Alymer]

What issue are the werewolves really bringing you? They add roleplay to the server, to whoever rps them right. They haven't really bothered much lately.

As for the standing in public, I've tried to speak to both races and they won't listen. They will deal with the consenquences icly.

[Edward Veatress]

I have no issue's with Werewolves, they're neutral with SMT, I dont see a point for de-scripting, plus they bring major Role-Play

[Simon Bourne]

I have no issue's with Werewolves, they're neutral with SMT, I dont see a point for de-scripting, plus they bring major Role-Play

You call "Oh hey wolf lick my hand." major RP?

Server needs to downgrade a lot back to basics...only 4 or 5 wolves around town, not a lot of vampires and MORE Rp...

[Kevin Alymer]

Basics, hmm, well don't think basics will bring you that much fun. Issue is, some players decide to RP the werewolves that way, and humans on the other hand are not without fault, they fail to react in a way so this can stop.

Either ways as I said, we are trying to deal with the issue at the moment. Also remember, we have a bigger player base than before. And humans are more in number than either supernatural race. I do find the wolves around town annoying too, we used to be better when that didn't happen, I've made a topic on it, but they don't really want to listen. Same goes with humans on the way they react to them.

[Simon Bourne]

When the wolves started to appear i remember people even freezing in place and shitting themselves, but now, because they're more and walk around the town like some sort of Mall, people don't RP fear that much...

[Peter Greenson]

If there wasn't the 'Tame wolf' complexity that promotes 'Hugs & Kisses' attitude to most wolves, There would still be that 'Holy shit its a wolf!' element. But at the moment its like 'OOC: I'm at tameeee wolff :3' sort of attitude which just, Ruins it.
Get rid of Tame Wolves, Bring back some hardcore wolf attitude (Grim's 'iron fist, Lets rip the people to shreds if they fuck with us' thing was better) just as long as wolves are mostly confined to their natural habitat of the forest, Not the city.

[Simon Bourne]

If there wasn't the 'Tame wolf' complexity that promotes 'Hugs & Kisses' attitude to most wolves, There would still be that 'Holy shit its a wolf!' element. But at the moment its like 'OOC: I'm at tameeee wolff :3' sort of attitude which just, Ruins it.
Get rid of Tame Wolves, Bring back some hardcore wolf attitude (Grim's 'iron fist, Lets rip the people to shreds if they fuck with us' thing was better) just as long as wolves are mostly confined to their natural habitat of the forest, Not the city.

Shii' i have 3 spare /learn points, if i ever make it to the Wolf race, i'll start to rip limbs off civvies to scare them....and maybe a hug or 2..

[Kevin Alymer]

There's been raids to town, and they have fed on humans, so that doesn't seem to solve it.

[Peter Greenson]

Kill all the tame wolves, Then have only one perspective on wolves and that's 'They dangerous!'.

[Simon Bourne]

Kill all the tame wolves, Then have only one perspective on wolves and that's 'They dangerous!'.

Wolves need to start making bad propaganda for them in human form.

Like a wolf in human form talking about how a tame wolf once ate his children or killed a friend...brainwash the people and inject FEAR into their minds, make them shit themselves about wolves ICly.

Ah my mind goes to dark places sometimes >_>

[Kevin Alymer]

If having a wolf in front of you won't make you cautious propaganda won't do much.

[Sonerin]

Yeah and also Remove werewolves since they caused a lot of trouble since they were scripted.....

Fuck that and this and everything, just relax, vampire bloodlines were removed because people started to bite magical NPC animals and shapeshifting into them.

That's why...

I agree with the werewolves. I don't like their roleplay. All they do is "pet me pet me ^^" which is overdone and boring.

Remove werewolves, enhance vampires.

[Simon Bourne]

Yeah and also Remove werewolves since they caused a lot of trouble since they were scripted.....

Fuck that and this and everything, just relax, vampire bloodlines were removed because people started to bite magical NPC animals and shapeshifting into them.

That's why...

I agree with the werewolves. I don't like their roleplay. All they do is "pet me pet me ^^" which is overdone and boring.

Remove werewolves, enhance vampires.

Note: I was actually JOKING about removing wolves, i love the Wolf race same as i love the server and other races (no homo), wolves can RP their own ways, but they will face the outcome of their actions.

[Kevin Alymer]

Werewolves bring unique roleplay, when you speak of werewolves don't speak about all of them. I've been playing over 800 hours as a werewolf and still enjoy it. This server gives you different options on what races you can play with, just enhancing vampires would just give players less options. Also before werewolves were a much better addition when we used to be less, and caused no trouble, but after some decided it'd be fun to walk around streets. Also please don't judge without roleplaying as a proper werewolf.

Vampires? Not everyone might be into blood sucking.

[Aaron_Lee]

Ratio of Humans/Wolves/Vampires (estimate)

5:10:3

There are just too much wolves. There is no balance.
We need balance so that every race is equal.

[Kevin Alymer]

Not really, there's usually much more humans than both races. Rarely the ratio might change.

[Nazz]

Why does another suggestion topic fall to the same point of problem with werewolves? No one's addressed it at all, is why.

The bloodlines should be brought back. From the way Moriarity made the guide, he's making it seem like every vampire should be the same. Even personality-wise be the same. Werewolves get shit like super beast Metis forms and flaming swords (only two examples), and we get a Game Face.

The part where the Bloodlines went wrong is when the "powers" were admitted. This is where the less intelligent roleplayers were transforming into dragons or attacking people with shadows.

The current BASICS of the vampire system are fine, though letting the bloodlines back in as an addition to it is what I support.

[Sam Akabara]

Vampires don't have to be the same personality wise..Not at all...
Re-Read it if you think that.
It's all less obscure..More reliant on the person..

All you want the bloodlines for is so you can do things like go
"I r Gangrel"

completley...Not needed....
Game Face is there as a balance medium. Noone is stupid enough now to change their facial features in public infront of people just to use strength...Means y'gotta think about it..Gotta be careful...Less "LOL I R STRONG INFRONT OF TUH BANKZOR"

[Nicolas Djordjevic]

Bloodlines...

I agree as long as someone won't complain about them. ( or being retarded enough to spawn snakes or something even more pathetic in front of the bank cuz u got 50 blood pointz ).

Oh well, Beauty Face.

How about Bloodlines + Game Face?

[Terry Winston]

I think blood lines would be fine as long as it moderated well and the blood points get scripted to stop ooc lieing

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