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Post by Raiden Akimoto Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:38 am

Alright, the reason of making this topic is about clan that have or haven't been seen for a long time. A couple of month ago there's a lot of gangs faction and it's kinda stupid. I do agree Groove Street got removed and I do agree with others that agree about the removal of Groove Street. Now, I as the 5th ex-Member of Ancelotti Clan would like to announce that player should create a clan once again. Having gangs just like what others did is not a good thing. For now on, no more gangs just clan so that the name VH:RP will remains.
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Post by Andre Campbell Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:49 am

taking gangs out of a roleplay server isn't fair if they can't have gangs to create rp
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Post by Samara Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:52 am

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I don't support either Gangs, or Clans, But that's just my opinion. Do whatever you want.
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Post by Raiden Akimoto Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:57 am

Well, having clans is suite the name Vampires and Humans Roleplay. Having gangs is like chaos to RP. Imagine this, you are in game and walking on the street and then you saw a car and someone drive-by and shoots you. Could possibly a man on the rooftop aiming at you and shoots or you walk on the street and hears gun shot, gun shot, gun shot. Then come this face --> =.="
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Post by Sonerin Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:25 am

If you're planning to create the Ku Klux Klan and roleplay the Klansmen, I'm ok with that.
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Post by Samara Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:26 am

Sonerin wrote:If you're planning to create the Ku Klux Klan and roleplay the Klansmen, I'm ok with that.


I have discussed this type of faction with Peter only a month ago, it is -not- allowed.
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Post by Edward Veatress Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:36 am

How is it not allowed? Vampire clans are in utmost General in the vampire world. Ancelotti was closed due to the founder leaving. I don't see why we cant Role-Play it. Camarilla and Sabbat are actual Clans which are the main, but there are several clans within the vampire world.
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Post by Sonerin Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:38 am

Tyrachi wrote:
Sonerin wrote:If you're planning to create the Ku Klux Klan and roleplay the Klansmen, I'm ok with that.


I have discussed this type of faction with Peter only a month ago, it is -not- allowed.
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Mason wrote:How is it not allowed? Vampire clans are in utmost General in the vampire world. Ancelotti was closed due to the founder leaving. I don't see why we cant Role-Play it. Camarilla and Sabbat are actual Clans which are the main, but there are several clans within the vampire world.

She's talking about The Klan/Ku Klux Klan/The Klansmen. Apparently, it is offensive. Strange that communism is allowed and you are free to share it here, but not this.
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Post by Peter Greenson Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:19 am

Sonerin wrote:She's talking about The Klan/Ku Klux Klan/The Klansmen. Apparently, it is offensive. Strange that communism is allowed and you are free to share it here, but not this.

Communism = Political System
KKK = Racist Group of people

See the similarities between those two things?

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Post by Sonerin Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:59 am

Greenson wrote:
Sonerin wrote:She's talking about The Klan/Ku Klux Klan/The Klansmen. Apparently, it is offensive. Strange that communism is allowed and you are free to share it here, but not this.

Communism = Political System
KKK = Racist Group of people

See the similarities between those two things?


KKK is based on white-seperatism. White-seperatism = political ideology.

Communists have caused the death of 50 million people, including innocent civilians. My relatives have died in the Chechen massacres done by Stalin in the past. Do I go all viking when I see a communist on the forums? No. Why can't you swallow the fact that I am a National Socialist, a Satanist, or something villianised in your eyes?
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Post by Peter Greenson Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:03 pm

Sonerin wrote:....

Socialism and Communism are pretty much the same thing.

Anyways, I said at the start to not post Fascist-Nazi ideals/images/views. Socialism is fine in my opinion. I mean, Hell.. I supported the Communist party in Greece, Do I have a say?
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Post by Sonerin Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:09 pm

Greenson wrote:
Sonerin wrote:....

Socialism and Communism are pretty much the same thing.

Anyways, I said at the start to not post Fascist-Nazi ideals/images/views. Socialism is fine in my opinion. I mean, Hell.. I supported the Communist party in Greece, Do I have a say?

It doesn't change the fact that Communists have slaughtered my people, and other innocents.

If you think that Socialism is fine, then I have the free right to think National Socialism is fine. If you have the right to share your Socialist ideas, images and views, I have the right to share my National Socialist ideas, images and views.
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Post by Nero Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:42 pm

Aaaallllright.... On topic.

If you want to see a clan on the server... Create one yourself? >.>

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And one of the problems might be that some people don't want to RP a vampire anymore... I mean, it used to be fun, now you gotta calculate the blood pool, power usage and other crap... Not to mention the fact that vampires got no heart-beat or don't breath BUT the blood still somehow flows through their body... -.-'


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Post by Peter Greenson Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:48 pm

Sonerin wrote:...

Alright then.. You can share your views.
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Post by Raiden Akimoto Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:58 pm

Well, I don't want to create a clan because I can't lead any clan. I've created The Night Ravens Clan and have around 6-8 members, then I closed it because I don't know what to do as a leader of a clan. I just want someone to bring back the clans like we used to have. Too many gangs and stuff is kinda boring. This is Vampires and Humans Roleplay which must have someone created a clan faction. I think you(Greenson) have seen a clan before because I know that you're registered on the forum in the month of February..
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Post by Nicolas Djordjevic Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:13 pm

Let's talk about Clans/Gangs, not about Nazis and Commies.

If you wanna create an Clan/Gang, well just do it. Things like Gang/Clan doing great do happen.
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Post by Marcus Campbell Mon Sep 05, 2011 9:25 pm

Eum,So say if we let only Clan's wearing a Grove skin isn't allowed anymore?No seriously people can make what they can,If they feel like being a gang,Let them be a gang,If they feel like making a clan let them be a clan,But starting to judge what kind of faction people need to choose is just plain bullshit imo...
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Post by Max Woods Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:03 am

The worst thing is, vampires = So boring to play on, as on my opinion and on many other opinions. Why? Just the anwser you cant do shi* in public. You cant even /vampirespeed or Jump. Sux. It would be better if a vampire, had same abilities as wolf, so he does not get boring. Like /vampiretransform, He'd have name: Vampire_661_235 and he could also get the skin id 33. I mean its just boring this way seriusly. + Once they cant do nothing in public, they cant even have guns, they can but when they logg out, pfft. They're gone. Oh and, you get less paycheck for being vampire too. That's why I wanted to be PK'd so I can be wolf:

- He can go in public, bite people in the necks, run around with wolf speed, he can basicly do everything because he's just an animal RPly. Ugh. Just to say: Wolfs = Better than vampires(alot)
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Post by Simon Bourne Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:38 am

Clans? Yeah right, we'll end up with the Lasombra's again or maybe some dude *Cough* Sonerin *cough* creates the KKK or the Waffen SS and we have some sort of racial war in PC...no.

You can create ANY faction that you want to create, but it must fit the atmosphere...
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Post by Nero Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:49 am

Cake wrote:The worst thing is, vampires = So boring to play on, as on my opinion and on many other opinions. Why? Just the anwser you cant do shi* in public. You cant even /vampirespeed or Jump. Sux. It would be better if a vampire, had same abilities as wolf, so he does not get boring. Like /vampiretransform, He'd have name: Vampire_661_235 and he could also get the skin id 33. I mean its just boring this way seriusly. + Once they cant do nothing in public, they cant even have guns, they can but when they logg out, pfft. They're gone. Oh and, you get less paycheck for being vampire too. That's why I wanted to be PK'd so I can be wolf:
FAIL....
And wolves get lower paychecks too, just like vampires.
Cake wrote:
- He can go in public

So can a vampire...

Cake wrote:
bite people in the necks

Vampire? Blood? Neck? >.>

Cake wrote:
run around with wolf speed

/Vampirespeed?

Cake wrote:
he can basicly do everything because he's just an animal RPly.

he(vampire) can basicaly do everything because he's just a HUMAN RPly.

Cake wrote:
Ugh. Just to say: Wolfs = Better than vampires(alot)

Nope. Get some facts together... Werewolves are made so they are balanced with vampires.

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Post by Peter Greenson Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:20 am

Cake wrote:The worst thing is, vampires = So boring to play on, as on my opinion and on many other opinions. Why? Just the anwser you cant do shi* in public. You cant even /vampirespeed or Jump. Sux. It would be better if a vampire, had same abilities as wolf, so he does not get boring. Like /vampiretransform, He'd have name: Vampire_661_235 and he could also get the skin id 33. I mean its just boring this way seriusly. + Once they cant do nothing in public, they cant even have guns, they can but when they logg out, pfft. They're gone. Oh and, you get less paycheck for being vampire too. That's why I wanted to be PK'd so I can be wolf:

- He can go in public, bite people in the necks, run around with wolf speed, he can basicly do everything because he's just an animal RPly. Ugh. Just to say: Wolfs = Better than vampires(alot)

Obviously missed the entire point of playing as a supernatural.
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Post by Nero Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:25 am

Cake wrote:you cant do shi* in public. You cant even /vampirespeed or Jump. Sux. It would be better if a vampire, had same abilities as wolf, so he does not get boring. Like /vampiretransform, He'd have name: Vampire_661_235 and he could also get the skin id 33. I mean its just boring this way seriusly

This is an RP server, if you could run around the town in Skin 33 and the "Vampire" tag, racing on foot against the cars and jump over buildings... Humans wouldn't like that, they might see it as a threat and make hunting parties or something. This isn't a TDM server where you got classes and skills so you run around and cause havoc.

And you:

Greenson wrote:Obviously missed the entire point of playing as a supernatural. .

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Post by Nicolas Djordjevic Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:20 pm

Cake wrote:The worst thing is, vampires = So boring to play on, as on my opinion and on many other opinions. Why? Just the anwser you cant do shi* in public. You cant even /vampirespeed or Jump. Sux. It would be better if a vampire, had same abilities as wolf, so he does not get boring. Like /vampiretransform, He'd have name: Vampire_661_235 and he could also get the skin id 33. I mean its just boring this way seriusly. + Once they cant do nothing in public, they cant even have guns, they can but when they logg out, pfft. They're gone. Oh and, you get less paycheck for being vampire too. That's why I wanted to be PK'd so I can be wolf:

- He can go in public, bite people in the necks, run around with wolf speed, he can basicly do everything because he's just an animal RPly. Ugh. Just to say: Wolfs = Better than vampires(alot)

Yes, we do suck, every single time, everywhere we go.

I'm vamp for 7 months, and I haven't got "bored" of it.

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Post by Marcus Campbell Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:39 pm

Personally i'm never gonna be vampire,although the RP of most vampires is good,close to great,Sure the Camarilla is different than Inquisition,But it's still going well with a lot of members,Personally the vamps are doing fine as they are now...So no need to discuss them...Again...
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Post by Edward Veatress Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:25 am

In my honest opinion, vampires give more Role-Play then Wolves Daniel, guess what? Wolves are the opposite, they ARE NOT better, the only reason Rudy scripted them is to balance it out with Vampires so humans wont be stuck in the crossfire of supernatural RP. You probably just want to be a Werewolf because they are supposedly "BETTER" then Vampires, and they never win every battle, the bite neck is the most stupid and worst strategy. Which is pure power game, you give the opponent no time to react and we lose a battle.

So tbh Wolves + Vampires = Equality and Balance
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