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[xRaul-Guerrero]

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Any of our deputies acting un-professional, abusing their status as a law enforcement agent, being disrespectful with civilians, not enforcing his job, enforcing his job with prejudges such as racism, sexism.

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Format:

(( If IC ))

Code:

Your name/nickname:
Your cellphone (in case we need further information):
Deputy name:
Deputy badge number:
Deputy rank (optional):
What did he do:
What time did this happen:
Any further information:


(( If ooc ))

Code:

Your name:
Deputy name:
Time that this occurred:
Reasons your reporting him for:
Additional proof (Optional, but highly suggested):
What would you like that happens with him:

All complaints will be checked by the Sheriff and the Under Sheriff.

[Luke_Campbell]

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Your name/nickname:
Luke Campbell.

Your cellphone (in case we need further information):
1010664. One-zero-one-zero-six-six-four.

Deputy name:
** Luke_Campbell describes Romeo_Kovacks. **
** Luke_Campbell describes DeRon_Ellis. **

Deputy badge number:
Unknown.

Deputy rank (optional):
Unknown.

What did he do:
- Police brutality.
- Physical torture.
- Psychological torture.
- Misuse of a firearm.
- Violation of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
- Promotion of intentional acts of physical and moral aggression.
- Acting while off-duty.
- Destruction of public property.
- Corruption, somewhat.
- Destruction of private property.
- Conspiracy to torture.
- Slander.
- Threat.

What time did this happen:
Yesterday, aroun' 21:00.

Any further information:
There was also a eyewitness complaining about their unlawfully behavior, Kira is his name, as far as I heard.

[Terry Winston]

*you recive a letter back*

Dear Mr campbell your case will be revied by in the inderpendant police complaints comission, we will contact you at a later date to come to make a full statement.

Yours sinseraly
Terry Winston

[Sonerin]

Code:
Your name/nickname: Rudolf Krieger.
Your cellphone (in case we need further information): 1010653
Deputy name: Marcus Venom.
Deputy badge number: 669342 ((Marcus Venom))
Deputy rank (optional): No idea, but I think he was a low-rank since he was under the command of some other sherrifs.
What did he do: He verbally assaulted me, and I am very offended by this. He keeps harrasing me and calling me with harsh words.
What time did this happen: 17.08.11, around 22:00.
Any further information: I really would like this person to be punished. He is a harsh and a violent person.

Here is a video record of him verbally assaulting me.

*IC video. A clear video recording of Marcus Venom verbally assaulting Rudolf.*
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[Terry Winston]

Your complaint has been passes onto the inderpendant police complaint commission, the case will be investigated. We will contact you with the report.

Terry Winston.

[Kevin Alymer]

Your name: Kevin Alymer
Deputy name: Xavier Kakolav
Time that this occurred: Few minutes ago.
Reasons your reporting him for: While he was on duty, I was speaking of him on how he was doing his job wrong as in, for the smallest reason he unholstered his gun. Due to this words he decided to hire a killer, his friend, to kill me after. Now RPK over words is one thing, but its also OOC corruption as he identified me from when he was on duty. That's how he basically got any information on me, and then used it for his own personal revenge over words.
Additional proof (Optional, but highly suggested):

[17:01:12] * Female_5243_767 holsters/unholsters her gun, switching the safety ON/OFF.

[17:01:14] [DEATH:] Jennifer Binford (ID:1) killed Kevin Alymer (ID:11); Weapon: Shotgun

[17:01:18] [SERVER:] You have been heavily injured. If a medic or someone else doesn't save you, you will die.

[17:01:18] [SERVER:] Type /acceptdeath to accept the death. Type /revive once someone brought you to the hospital in Montgomery.

[17:01:18] (( (ID:11) Kevin Alymer: ... ))

[17:01:24] (( (ID:11) Kevin Alymer: I dont even know the guy. ))

[17:01:24] (( (ID:1) Jennifer Binford: I was hired ))

[17:01:25] * Male_1388_354 notices her killing someone.

[17:01:29] (( (ID:14) Xavier Kakolav: The cop ))

[17:01:32] * Female_5243_767 holsters/unholsters her gun, switching the safety ON/OFF.

[17:01:40] [ERROR:] You can't talk. You're uncoscious.

[17:02:02] (( (ID:11) Kevin Alymer: I still need a reason for RPK ))

[17:02:06] (( (ID:11) Kevin Alymer: Else I'll consider it DM ))

[17:02:15] (( (ID:1) Jennifer Binford: I was hired. :/ ))

[17:02:16] *** Aki Kurotaki left the server. (Leaving)

[17:02:18] (( (ID:11) Kevin Alymer: Also. ))

[17:02:20] (( (ID:14) Xavier Kakolav: You disrespected me, I don't take that lightly. ))

[17:02:29] (( (ID:11) Kevin Alymer: I disrespected you how? ))

What would you like that happens with him: Fired.

[Nero]

How is that OOC corruption? He was on-duty ICly, he saw your face ICly, went off- duty ICly, hired someone ICly and got you killed ICly... He never got your info...

[Kevin Alymer]

He did find me by checking on the roof which is an SD duty. He used all he saw in that scene, and all I said to him on duty, as information to use off duty, to kill me over a few bunch of words. It is OOC corruption due to the fact that he wasn't doing his job, was instead using the opportunity, all the information required as a police officer, in NON trusted hands, which is himself, as he's a mafia member. All said to the SD is confidental, not to be shared to a mafia, and an assasin, to go kill me over a bunch of words, which is barely even a valid reason to script someone. If we could script others for the sake of words they told us, the whole place would turn into a battle ground.

Basically he abused the information given to him on duty, so he could use it for his mafia purposes to gain "respect" or show me a lesson. You don't want someone who serves the law, to actually be requiring information to kill you later on, it's obviously OOC corruption.

That's not defending the law, that's more like, being a double agent off duty.

[Nero]

I still don't get it how that kind of corruption would be OOC...
And you didn't give him any info about yourself, I was there. You started talking shit to us, so he, as a corrupt officer(ICly) went after you, he had your description and hired someone to do the job. Don't see anything OOC there... It's IC corruption: He was on duty, you disrespected him, he went off duty and killed you. And again... Nothing OOC about it... So this would have to be dealt ICly.


EDIT:

You can't be corrupt to advantage/disadvantage anyone.

OOC corruption would be buying a weapon with the lvl3 firearms license that you get automatically if in a faction.

So... This is COMPLETELY IC.

[Terry Winston]

I consider this to be ooc corruption.
This isnt the first instant and i warned him earlyer.
He will be fired unless caleb states otherwise.

[Nero]

I consider this to be ooc corruption.
This isnt the first instant and i warned him earlyer.
He will be fired unless caleb states otherwise.

Are you serious? Read my post, above yours... And the "EDIT" part too.

[Kevin Alymer]

No no, things said to the police are said in confidentiality. Only because he didn't pull a gun at me right there doesn't mean he's not corrupted. He uses all I said to him as a cop, in confidentiality to use as information for his mafia. When police deal with a scene, they recieve information, that is, how I look, what I say to defend myself, and more. Now this mafia guy, used all of that information, on me, which he recieved on duty, to give it the a hitman in the mafia, which is corruption as the police should clearly not share information on others. Giving my description to someone, and using what I told to him as a police, and giving it to a hitman, is pretty serious. Plus the girl had a shotgun and where did she get it too if she didn't have a license? Using police force, a.k.a granted SD license, is using police force for bad purposes.

Now when you're a cop, you're a cop in duty, nothing more, whatever is said to you has to be kept in confidentiality, which is cruicial. He's definately a corrupted cop regarding the fact that I can't share information with him while I speak to him. When you're a cop, you're a cop, you're different on the other people's images, you're a trusted individual, and have been given the privelege to do so. So it is corruption if you abuse that privelege for your own little mafia spyings.

Now if being a cop and a mafia is not OOC corruption then I have no other idea on what it is.

The OOC corruption rule, applies to using any police force to someone's disadvantage. Why is the rule put? So cops can't go mess around when their superiors aren't on duty.

Also in addition, what was done with their mission in breaking in the SF carrier killing guards, to steal, what was in it?

Also, when I spoke to you and Xavier, and you really listened, my point wasnt on being offensive, you were unholstering the gun as soon as you saw us on the roof, which is quite disturbing for some. After you were too lousy to listen, and then, started following us around, when we gathered on the ground to talk, I referred to him as a doghnut cop, and him looking like one. If I'm going to be scripted suddenly because of that, please...

EDIT:

Abusing the OOC rule of, abusing a glitch all factions get, to have a lvl 3 license, is actually rule 1, don't cheat. Nothing to do with corruption.


To add more to this complaint, where did the girl get the shotgun, to script me?

[Terry Winston]

The whole situation is mess no one would hire some one to kill someone on the base that he insulted you ect plus this isnt the first time something like this has happend.
We can have cops just going off duty and being corrupt because its still an abuse of power he took an on duty incedent and used to get revenge, even if people consider this not to be a rule break we don't want members of our faction acting like this. If caleb disagrees he can overule my choice.

Other wise FIRED

[Kevin Alymer]

Look if you want to take it icly, they broke into the SF carrier, military surrounded them and they escaped by water? Either ways their faces are given to the public, so they'd know they killed all those guards and trespassed there. The photos would be sent to SD and they would immediately fire them, which I don't know why it didn't happen before, where all of this wouldnt happen.

Now, scripting just for a matter of words, after all I was right, in a lot of cases, as you were the ones pulling the guns towards us, you don't see me go behind you and script you for that. I wasn't even sure, on whether to call that script or DM, but, I decided to let them do it either ways.

If we're going to start scripting for something like, you accidentaly bumped onto me, or, you told me I look like a doghnut, vhrp would be a DM area. People have the freedom of speech and cops should respect that, not plot killing them after, using all the info they got as cops. If you're a cop, you're a cop, not a spy working for the mafia.

[Caleb Simms]

Right the situation will be reviewed and discussed and a decision will be stated. Also please use >>>> [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] . You'll find all the information here that you will need.

[ScrwUGyzIGoinHome]

A'lright here is the problem, you insulted me on duty your talking about all this shit saying cops are trusted individuals thus your words you said to me spat on my face and your foot stepped on me . IRL cops have two lives being a cop and being a normal Citizen.

You are the first person I killed because of your stupid words you would say to a cop just for asking you Ic'ly to get off the roof. Everyone else got off the roof except you and Sean since you guys think your the shit IC. So I seen that as disrespect to me as I am a DON and I really don't take bullshit from anyeone.

You are the worst person I spoke to IC you disresepected me by telling me that I should be on a leash aka calling me a dog. Regardless if I was on cop duty or not. Your saying when I am a cop I have a different life? No Xavier Kakolav has one life to live and Curruption is the life he chose. I showed you a lesson in a normal Russian Assasin. You know I can't kill you while on Cop duty I went off duty to kill you this is not breaking the rule. Also I walked up to the scene with my pistol already in hand.

You disobeyed a direct order from a Police Officer because we have the right to keep citizens safe. You showed me no respect on living pretty much by telling me to fuck off. Ic'ly Xavier got pissed so what better way to do except to hire an Assasin to get rid of you since you showed me no sign of wanting to live. I didn't do it personally either.

What we stole from the boat was guns shipped from Italy, and it was not a Navy boat it was considered voided and roleplayed as a Criminal boat since I couldn't find any other boat at the time untill another admin told me that there are other boats somewhere you just gotta find it. I also have many guns stored in many locations. She got the shotgun from me which I bought IC'ly from a roleplay I had earlier. I have SS of a lot of things I didn't post in my faction only for Secrecy and for proof that I roleplayed it.

Everything you say is not kept confidentiality if you don't remember when I was on the roof I said "Ma'am please get off the roof" AKA Jennifer. She was the girl who killed you she was there when you was talking all that bullshit to me so she already knew your face.

[ScrwUGyzIGoinHome]

Now when you're a cop, you're a cop in duty, nothing more, whatever is said to you has to be kept in confidentiality, which is cruicial. He's definately a corrupted cop regarding the fact that I can't share information with him while I speak to him. When you're a cop, you're a cop, you're different on the other people's images, you're a trusted individual, and have been given the privelege to do so. So it is corruption if you abuse that privelege for your own little mafia spyings.

This is exactly what you wrote. If I am a cop I am a cop on duty. When I am not on Duty I am a Russian Mafia nothing else.

This is what I am writing, I am a Russian Don On duty or not I just can't drive up to someone and arrest them then kill them while on duty. This is Ic'ly if no one finds out then its IC you are mad because you died thats what I am guessing.


Also you didn't share any information with me at all end of story. You disrespected me many ways.

[ScrwUGyzIGoinHome]

Look if you want to take it icly, they broke into the SF carrier, military surrounded them and they escaped by water? Either ways their faces are given to the public, so they'd know they killed all those guards and trespassed there. The photos would be sent to SD and they would immediately fire them, which I don't know why it didn't happen before, where all of this wouldnt happen.

Now, scripting just for a matter of words, after all I was right, in a lot of cases, as you were the ones pulling the guns towards us, you don't see me go behind you and script you for that. I wasn't even sure, on whether to call that script or DM, but, I decided to let them do it either ways.

If we're going to start scripting for something like, you accidentaly bumped onto me, or, you told me I look like a doghnut, vhrp would be a DM area. People have the freedom of speech and cops should respect that, not plot killing them after, using all the info they got as cops. If you're a cop, you're a cop, not a spy working for the mafia.

NAvy RP never happened End of Story it was a Criminal ship. You think I will break into a Navy place without disguising myself with atleast over 500navy seals working there? Think about it RP Was voided Dominique said so and Caleb Agreed I got re-invited to the Faction end of story.

[Kevin Alymer]

I wasn't disrespecting you, you failed to hear anything I was saying and just focusing, on the rest. We weren't acting tough we were defending our rights. You and Nero, unholstered your guns, without us doing anything. Nero said, first it was for our own good, to step off the roof, in case we could get injured, but as you know we all have our own life insurance police isn't really going to pay if we get harmed. Now unholstering your guns to normal inahbitants, is NOT normal. I started speaking to you without disrespect because you weren't listening to when I was talking about the guns you had unholstered. Do you see a police in real life unholster his gun in front of you when you've done nothing? You then got out your taser. We weren't acting tough, we were trying to inform you that people don't like it when guns are pulled out, why? They can kill you. I informed you several times on it, told them to keep you on a leash as you had your gun out. That's not really a good sign, and its quite, disturbing for some. You simply don't unholster your gun in front of civilians for no apparent reason. From the way I see it, you were the ones acting tough with your guns, all we did is use words, and became less nice as you failed to listen to them. You don't except a person who believes in the right of civilians to see an officer pull a gun out in front of him. It's not a good sign. Of course I'm not going to be nice to cops who don't respect us.

As for the ship, there are cargo ships around. Either ways, you used police information to hire a hitman on it, just for a bunch of words. I never started offending you directly, severely, I was just being harsher the less you listened to us.

And the way Nero made it seem wasnt like an order, it was like a , get down for your own safety, because you can get injured.

Ye can keep your mafia spies in SD all you like, but being scripted over a few words isn't really, script, its more like DM. People have called me worst, even oocly others always refer to others as "fuck you", mom jokes, etc, and that's not even a good reason.

You were being disrespectful to the needs of a citizen, I was being disrespectful to you. Plus, whatever word of offence I used on you, wasn't even serious. Doghnut cop is definately a joke sterotypical word for cops. Keep you in a leash, of course, why not? Pulling out a gun when we were doing nothing, was pretty not cool, and not calm at all. Ye know people have to react when they have guns around them. There's a reason they pulled the guns out, probably to shoot us.

Who even gave the hitman the shotgun?

As you said yourself, you went out to kill me. Yes, you did give the order to a hitman, to kill an individual you had a conflict with when he was just an inhabitant. You got offended by a bunch of words. If I tried to kill you, then definately yes, but over a bunch of words? She's part of your maifia, or you hired her, you used a conlflict we had when you were a cop, solve it with me, legaly. Instead you decided to take revenge by hiring a hitman. She was there? She told me she was hired, so you were the one, actually taking a conflict happening in cop duty as that.

[ScrwUGyzIGoinHome]

She was there yes, I hired her but she already works for me I specifically told her to do a job and she has to listens to my orders regardless. She was the one I told to get off the roof when I Called Ma'am. You know how mafia's work? Disrespecting someone doesn't get you in where in life especially infront of a Don. Stop saying I unholstered the gun infront of you, because I didn't I walked up to the group with the gun in hand already.

You disrespected me I didn't say one word to disrespect you I just simply ignored your words because as a cop I told you to get off the roof which you didn't comply to which is refusal to comply with a police officer. Also jailable. Thats why I took out my tazer ready to shoot anyone who was going to touch me.

There is about 6-7 of you and two cops. AKA over powered why not have my gun out? But I didn't take it out infront of you and if you didn't notice I took out my tazer after realising the situation was nothing wrong and you decided to not listen to me. If any of you where to attack us we would lose regardless. You would also be able to steal my gun from my waistband since its 6-7vs2 easy to do so. Having a pistol out before we walked up to the scene was our choice for protection nothing wrong with that but I did switch to my tazer, which you then disrespected me some more.

Don't forget I asked you nicely to get off the roof then you started bullshitting about a private roof. Would I know that IC no. Would I know it was an abondon building with no owner? No Doesn't matter if the building is Abandon or not, it becomes the governments building not your private building to sit and chat on. Government buildings are patrolled by officers. I told you simply to get off the roof and you came out with a book from your ass and read it to me.

[ScrwUGyzIGoinHome]

BTW you non-rp fear while a cop had a gun in his hand..

[Kevin Alymer]

That's not how it works, how would you feel if there's a cop with two guns approaching you? You did unholster it at some point, keeping the gun unholstered is just disturbing for others. Ye know, also people when they are cautious from guns, will of course, not be very nice to you, cause, they don't feel comfortable. What do you want me to do, not defend my rights as an inhabitant and let the cops in an easy go? Cops have let many crimes pass by, have done their mistakes, and my character knows it since the day her daughters character was tased, when she was like 11 or 13. Yes, he does have an issue with cops, because they tased his daughter, ofc he'll be concerned with two SD carrying guns. You can see SD shooting around, almost shooting civilians all the time, when they go for their "wolf hunts" why would you trust them in their ways. Put yourself in the role of my character. He has had enough with you treating them like that. None of us were armed or equipped, we were just talking showed no sign of a threat, we were enjoying a conversation in a private buliding that has no owner, therefore I dont see any legal issue on staying there. You come out with guns, the SD which is not famous even handling them properly, but even if they were, they'd still be kind of, scared? Guns, kill people, that's kind of why cops use them, to hurt, people, to make them stop, its a last resort weapon. You immediately assumed we were risky, even though we had no signs of even carrying weapons, we were just minding our own business. My character was concerned, and, not happy from the way you handled things, so he started being harsh but his language was still as polite as it could get, but of course you failed to see that. He didn't use any impolite words, the worst thing he probably said is that, you looked like a doghnut, and that was after you failed to listen to use many times. Ignoring the requests of an inhabitant is not ethical at all.

Now after all of the behavior of my character is explained, you decided, to bring, this murderer, and get to kill me, a person just trying to defend the rights of their inhabitants, by talking to you, in a way it'd get your attention since the first time it didnt. You give her a gun(maybe you bought it for her which is corruption, you're using an SD issued license for illegal use/ share)

You solved a police issue you had where an inhabitan was sharing his issues with you, and you didn't listen to them, illegaly, by simply silencing from the right of word given to me. I commited no crime against you as a cop. You did use me, trying to solve an issue about your gun holding issue as police info, and then took it oocly, to revenge, just cause you felt like it.

Even when she came to murder me, to "talk" I was working on something and I was polite on her, and talked to her politely, differently from before. Of course something was different, the person was acting nice, so I was acting nicely back. Then she just uses a bind and shoots me with a shotgun till I die.

And I think you clearly didn't read what I said. I was reacting differently because you HAD a gun in your hand. I wasn't happy about it. Plus SD shouldnt be doing it, and, trying to warn you I was going to report it to the sheriff didnt change any of that, then I had to convince you later on, which I failed on doing. I was reacting furiously, and was actually cautious, and kind, of not comfortable when you had the gun on you, that's why I was acting like that. How can you be all polite and calm when you have a gun on you. I was rping it right actually.

[ScrwUGyzIGoinHome]

That's not how it works, how would you feel if there's a cop with two guns approaching you? You did unholster it at some point, keeping the gun unholstered is just disturbing for others. Ye know, also people when they are cautious from guns, will of course, not be very nice to you, cause, they don't feel comfortable. What do you want me to do, not defend my rights as an inhabitant and let the cops in an easy go? Cops have let many crimes pass by, have done their mistakes, and my character knows it since the day her daughters character was tased, when she was like 11 or 13. Yes, he does have an issue with cops, because they tased his daughter, ofc he'll be concerned with two SD carrying guns. You can see SD shooting around, almost shooting civilians all the time, when they go for their "wolf hunts" why would you trust them in their ways. Put yourself in the role of my character. He has had enough with you treating them like that. None of us were armed or equipped, we were just talking showed no sign of a threat, we were enjoying a conversation in a private buliding that has no owner, therefore I dont see any legal issue on staying there. You come out with guns, the SD which is not famous even handling them properly, but even if they were, they'd still be kind of, scared? Guns, kill people, that's kind of why cops use them, to hurt, people, to make them stop, its a last resort weapon. You immediately assumed we were risky, even though we had no signs of even carrying weapons, we were just minding our own business. My character was concerned, and, not happy from the way you handled things, so he started being harsh but his language was still as polite as it could get, but of course you failed to see that. He didn't use any impolite words, the worst thing he probably said is that, you looked like a doghnut, and that was after you failed to listen to use many times. Ignoring the requests of an inhabitant is not ethical at all.

Now after all of the behavior of my character is explained, you decided, to bring, this murderer, and get to kill me, a person just trying to defend the rights of their inhabitants, by talking to you, in a way it'd get your attention since the first time it didnt. You give her a gun(maybe you bought it for her which is corruption, you're using an SD issued license for illegal use/ share)

You solved a police issue you had where an inhabitan was sharing his issues with you, and you didn't listen to them, illegaly, by simply silencing from the right of word given to me. I commited no crime against you as a cop. You did use me, trying to solve an issue about your gun holding issue as police info, and then took it oocly, to revenge, just cause you felt like it.

Even when she came to murder me, to "talk" I was working on something and I was polite on her, and talked to her politely, differently from before. Of course something was different, the person was acting nice, so I was acting nicely back. Then she just uses a bind and shoots me with a shotgun till I die.

And I think you clearly didn't read what I said. I was reacting differently because you HAD a gun in your hand. I wasn't happy about it. Plus SD shouldnt be doing it, and, trying to warn you I was going to report it to the sheriff didnt change any of that, then I had to convince you later on, which I failed on doing. I was reacting furiously, and was actually cautious, and kind, of not comfortable when you had the gun on you, that's why I was acting like that. How can you be all polite and calm when you have a gun on you. I was rping it right actually.

Well, you can't make the police report now can you? Anyhow I don't see any ooc here as I roleplayed everything to a specific manor. Please don't say me when you talk about cops shooting Wolfs I never done that, I take mostley every police report that happens. I even decided IC I will no longer take police calls just because of that inncident on the roof. I decided IC only if I am told to by a higher officer only will I take a police call.

We don't know what was happening on the roof I even did /do What do I see. No one answered which makes me think something is wrong. Put your role in my character of a Mafia Boss have you tried that? Your roleplay is completely different from mines. I do things different from you not everyone is the same character if so we all would probably be a wolf or Vampire and it would get very boring on the server. I didn't tell her to script kill you thats not my fault she decided to script kill you herself. she could have /me shoots his leg trying to blow them off. All I wanted was your finger to prove you died. Scripted death not my fault.

You still missing the point on a cop telling you to get off the roof. You disobeyed a direct order from the law, on top of that you disrespected me. You need to learn how I roleplay as a Mafia member. I kill for disrespect,I kill for money,I kill for anyone messing with anyone in the family. You pretty much called me a bitch IC without saying bitch. Dog is a bitch, putting me on a leash is calling me a dog also calling me a bitch. Thats how I took it IC and thats very disrespectful. I never disrespected you I just ignored you after you ignored me your fault not mines. IDC what you have to say IC about being on the roof. I said get off the roof you should listen to a police officer. IRL would you still stand on a roof after he told you to get off and warned you he will arrest you if you do not listen?? Un-owned building not yours get off of it when told by the law. Owned by you then I wont say shit. Pretty much your tresspassing and you know that.

[Kevin Alymer]

I was never ordered to go down, it was a private abandoned building of pizza stack therefore, there's like no owner there. Meaning there's nothing wrong with staying there, there's none to ask permission from to even stay up there, bothers no one. Plus, the excuse for you wanting us to go down was, for our own safety, we decided to take responsibility for our own actions. You didn't really order us.

Now, the worst word I told you was "You look like a doghnut", and that is not a valid reason to kill. I was thinking of ajailing your friend for scripting without a good enough reason, I was nice not to.

"Keep you on a leash"? Why not you had a gun on me. I was rping fear indeed, you were kind of a SD officer with a gun in your hand.

I wasn't talking about you shooting wolves, other SD officers have used their weapons in not the best way before.

It's not hard to call someone a bitch, if you could see I was being polite on my vocabulary. There's no english translation to english words, its the same language. If I wanted to call you a bitch I could, but I didn't. Keep you on a leash, yes its an expression, you were kinda with a gun and could possibly shoot me, as there was a reason you had the gun on you. I do compare a guy with a gun to a dog, cause, if not on a leash, they are both dangerous.

I was being polite, therefore respectful, I didn't use any unpolite language, you can't just translate my english words to other english words. Its like you saying hi and me scripting you after cause I think hi is some offence. That just doesn't make sense. Thinking a dog is a bitch is offensive. To the dog, and to dog owners. English, is, english.

No killing people over words, also with the fact my guy wanted to be as polite as he could. It wasnt an order to get down, we were asking questions and got ignored, and without you understanding, or even listening to us, don't expect us to move.

If I was a mafia boss I wouldnt join SD in the first place. Plus its you who had a problem with my char enough for him to get killed. If this happens again over words, unless they're serious threats, then I'll consider it as DM.

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I ordered you to get down its in one of your comments you said Nero asked you politely as in concern of your health I ordered you to get down.

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