Let's ban religion [Satire]

[Peter Greenson]

Got me sold not.

[Edward Veatress]

/me wonders why Peter is randomly post counting

[Simon Bourne]

Actually, it's a really good idea, i mean, religion/s is/are the main reason why the people starts wars, and maybe the money.

Someday, and i hope that day comes soon, we're going to have to stop paying for the things that we create from materials that come from the Earth, paying for the things that the nature gives us...not right.

/totallynotaliberalhippie.

[Peter Greenson]

/me wonders why Peter is randomly post counting

These are discussion topics not useless statements like "omfg someone has done X, Y, Z"

[Ray]

Science flies you to the moon,

Religion flies you into buildings.

[Simon Bourne]

Science flies you to the moon,

Religion flies you into buildings.

AMEN FOR THAT!

On a more serious note:

Ray's quote is right, but SCIENCE helps in the wars that RELIGION starts.

[Peter Greenson]

Apart from keeping civilization together in the middle ages.... What has religion done for humanity?
- Caused mass genocide
- World Wars (relative and literal)
- Imbalance
- Slavery (Christian pope didn't do anything to help the blacks)
- More mass genocide
- Superstitions.

[Odin]

Science flies you to the moon,

Religion flies you into buildings.

Oh Ray, the oldest of the old sentences.

On topic: Well yeah that's one the reasons of my atheism, war about stupid bearded men up in the sky, everyone claiming their god is true while others are false gods. etc etc...
Specially hard here in the middle east since well we're surrounded with what you can call Arabs and Islamic people there's war every freaking day between the two sides we're both losing people for no good reason what so ever, Humanity with their spiritual inventions... when is it going to stop..

[Peter Greenson]

Specially hard here in the middle east since well we're surrounded with what you can call Arabs and Islamic people there's war every freaking day between the two sides we're both losing people for no good reason what so ever, Humanity with their spiritual inventions... when is it going to stop..

Read Sayyid Qutb's writings.... It's the root cause of Islamic extremism in the late 20th - early 21st centuries.

[Simon Bourne]

Apart from keeping civilization together in the middle ages.... What has religion done for humanity?
- Caused mass genocide
- World Wars (relative and literal)
- Imbalance
- Slavery (Christian pope didn't do anything to help the blacks)
- More mass genocide
- Superstitions.

Not to mention global cases of pedophilia >_> THE POPE IS PEDOBEAR IN DISGUISE!

[Sonerin]

[Peter Greenson]

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It's alright if you continue being a god fearing citizen because you will have a good afterlife. Also the second picture on the western world isn't accepted so I guess it's never going to happen in a religious state which is Islamic.

[Samara]

Science flies you to the moon,
Religion flies you into buildings.

Agree'd, But think of it this way, Without Religion in the world, there'd be less warfare, Right?

Lets say Religion gets wiped completely from the earth, and it never existed, The world would be a way better place to live in, Right?

Wrong. Why?

Religion is one of the main causes wars, without wars, and the mass of death that comes from them, The entire world would be over-populated by the human race, if not by now, then it probably would have in the near future.
Without war, The only causes for death, would be the occasional murder, accidents, weather disasters (Cyclones/Hurricanes, Tsunami's..), cancers/tumours and other infections/problems with the human body, old age, etc.
Imagine if Hitler hadn't killed those millions of Jews, and they had all lived happy lives, etc.. The world now, would probably be 10 - 20 times more populated than it is now, Look at China for an example of over population, they had to bring in laws and regulations to say that a couple were only allowed to have one child, if you were to have more than one, you would miss out on benefits.

In order to address overpopulation, the one-child policy promotes one-child families and forbids couples from having more than one child in urban areas. Parents with multiple children aren't given the same benefits as parents of one child. In most cases, wealthy families pay a fee to the government in order to have a second child or more.

Religion has it's good and it's bad sides to it. As I said above, without religion, the world would be over-populated -more than it already is.

We try to get rid of religion, It'll cause war, We do nothing about religion, It'll cause war, Either way equals more death and more wars.

I think the only way to get rid of religion would be to kill off the human race.


/Rant over.

[Peter Greenson]

- First and Second world wars were caused out of political/economic tension in the region, Not religious.
- The current war on terror is an ideological war.

Hitler convinced the people of Germany to kill the Jews not because of their religion but because of their culture. Monotheistic religions share similar views and the people who didn't follow Judaism but with culturally Jews were killed. The genocide was of culture (As shown because gypsies were also killed) and not of religion. So you haven't exactly got a point there.

Considering that it was already attempted in the Soviet Union and China in their own Stalinization/cultural revolution (One that is the strongest economic powerhouse in the world still) shows that it is possible under a one-party state.
Look at where the world is heading, To a Chinese dominated world where the Christian America is only a modest competitor.
Your quote about China proves everything about overpopulation... They put in a rule to stop it. However the religious India still is experiencing population growth because they like to have big families.

[Sonerin]

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It's alright if you continue being a god fearing citizen because you will have a good afterlife. Also the second picture on the western world isn't accepted so I guess it's never going to happen in a religious state which is Islamic.

You don't need to be religious to be a kind, lawful person. But religion leads people to hostility.

bark bark

You are speaking as if we are living in an overpopulated world where we can't live an average life. You don't need religion to keep the population balanced. Not to mention that it is balanced anyway.

[Peter Greenson]

You are speaking as if we are living in an overpopulated world where we can't live an average life. You don't need religion to keep the population balanced. Not to mention that it is balanced anyway.

Well you live in the relatively underpopulated Europe, If you lived in India where you shared the building with 5 other families you would be singing another tune.

[Sonerin]

You are speaking as if we are living in an overpopulated world where we can't live an average life. You don't need religion to keep the population balanced. Not to mention that it is balanced anyway.

Well you live in the relatively underpopulated Europe, If you lived in India where you shared the building with 5 other families you would be singing another tune.

Go culturally marxise yourself with Muslims to keep the population low then. Behead some Jews and Atheists while you're at it.

Religions have nothing related to the world's population. If we have to keep it steady, then we find other ways. Scientists don't convert into Islam to change the population.

Besides, Islam supports the birth of at least 3 children. I can guess why. To keep the Islam spreading. Wasting your 4 hours a day for the mosque-gym, focusing your life on a religion. No wonder why the Middle East is a spinning shitbunker.

Religions won't get you anywhere, science and education will.

[Peter Greenson]

You are speaking as if we are living in an overpopulated world.

Well you live in the relatively underpopulated Europe

Go culturally marxise yourself with Muslims to keep the population low then.
Religions have nothing related to the world's population.
Besides, Islam supports the birth of at least 3 children.

Are you contradicting yourself in the same post?
Not once did I say that we should reduce population size yet you suggest that I should turn to radical Islam or something along those lines.

The fact of the matter is that Science by itself will not solve our problems because most science is not socialable. Education won't solve our problems either as the current education schemes do not teach students to think critically or constructively.
The next war that advances technology will not have a beneficial ending for anyone, But technology will peak anyways.

[Sonerin]

You are speaking as if we are living in an overpopulated world.

Well you live in the relatively underpopulated Europe

Go culturally marxise yourself with Muslims to keep the population low then.
Religions have nothing related to the world's population.
Besides, Islam supports the birth of at least 3 children.

Are you contradicting yourself in the same post?
Not once did I say that we should reduce population size yet you suggest that I should turn to radical Islam or something along those lines.

The fact of the matter is that Science by itself will not solve our problems because most science is not socialable. Education won't solve our problems either as the current education schemes do not teach students to think critically or constructively.
The next war that advances technology will not have a beneficial ending for anyone, But technology will peak anyways.

Religions have nothing related to decreasing the world's population, let me correct that.

It depends on what problems we are facing. Science can solve many problems. About the education; If you study hard enough, press the knowledge into your head, you manage to pass the tests. And voilà, you are a fucking nuclear engineer. That's a lot of money, and money helps you live.

Science and education is more important than religion. That's what I've been trying to say.

[Peter Greenson]

Anyone can be a CEO but it takes someone special to create the company. In other words, You can be a nuclear physicist but you can't invent things. That's the problem faced in education, We aren't taught to create.

[Sonerin]

Anyone can be a CEO but it takes someone special to create the company. In other words, You can be a nuclear physicist but you can't invent things. That's the problem faced in education, We aren't taught to create.

Cavemen were not educated when they invented melee weapons. And yes, you can invent your own things on your own.

[Peter Greenson]

Yes and it took around 50,000 years for the caveman with the simple melee weapon to move onto a propelled projectile weapon. Time is a great factor in technological development. Religion restrains change from happening and thats an issue.

[Sonerin]

[Rising]

"Human beings must be known to be loved; but Divine beings must be loved to be known".


Blaise Pascal

[Simon Bourne]

Last picture on the science side....i saw that in a movie...can't remember the name, but i DO remember it was related to the events of WW2 where Hitler killed them Jews.

On topic:

We started to talk about our ideas and the religion just because of that video or maybe because you saw the comments, you're all getting off topic.

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